126 points by wslh 1 month ago | 54 comments
cj 1 month ago
If his end goal is to simply liquidate his position, maybe the "gifting shares to trust" is just part of a tax avoidance scheme (even if it sounds illegal, it often isn't).
I've seen this very commonly with private company founders expecting an exit in the next couple years, but very possible this situation is completely different.
The fact that it triggered a clause to eliminate preferred voting shares is very odd. Either a complete oversight by the guy's lawyer, or if it was done intentionally, I have no idea.
tw04 1 month ago
The billoin dollar question is why? Seems it could only be a handful of things:
Major health problem so the controlling stake won't matter.
Major unannounced issue that would cause the stock to drop precipitously (on paper he'd be facing prison time, but I think we all know he won't even if true).
Outside pressure, presumably from a government entity because I don't know what private party would have the juice to push him out.
Outside of that, unless he's just done with the rat race, planning on retiring and just not working anymore I've got a lot of nothing. When you have as much money as he has, I don't see why you'd give up control of your baby willingly as part of "normal estate planning" at his age.
nfriedly 1 month ago
To be fair, I'm not sure it could be much worse than the major announced issues of the past few years.
benoau 1 month ago
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/may/09/crowdstri...
coliveira 1 month ago
Given the business crowdStrike is, it is now unlikely this scheme was setup by some three letter agency from the countries involved with this company. So, the control of the company is handled by one or more entities they trust.
baobun 1 month ago
Gathering6678 1 month ago
It's probably not an oversight. E.g. in Hong Kong, it is mandatory to have a minimum amount of equity (I think 10%), otherwise you will lose all super-voting power. I don't think a similar requirement is present in the US, but the logic behind is valid: the super-voting power is for a founder / important member of the company to maintain control and therefore allow for a long-term strategy to be carried out, even after multiple rounds of financing. If you're no longer a major shareholder and working for the company, the super-voting power may no longer be appropriate, as your priorities and preferences may now differ from the company.
Calwestjobs 1 month ago
robertlagrant 1 month ago
It's never illegal, as far as I know. When it's illegal it's tax evasion.
SecretDreams 1 month ago
zahlman 1 month ago
SecretDreams 1 month ago
zdragnar 1 month ago
blitzar 1 month ago
hoofhearted 1 month ago
91bananas 1 month ago
blitzar 1 month ago
zdragnar 1 month ago
Should new evidence come to light, new charges can be filed.
toast0 1 month ago
yieldcrv 1 month ago
Doing it before creditors are interested in you, including even a spouse, shields those assets. With a good spendthrift clause even alimony couldnt get those assets. You dont get them with either though, but you can still direct control.
No longer on your balance sheet
piva00 1 month ago
Too much of a coincidence in a short amount of time.
[0] https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/may/09/crowdstri...
jrexilius 1 month ago
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/crowdstrike-probed-over-32m-i...
jlarocco 1 month ago
bink 1 month ago
ghc 1 month ago
the_sleaze_ 1 month ago
wslh 1 month ago
__alexs 1 month ago
_QrE 1 month ago
> Subsequent filings from four trusts show that about half of his gifted shares were transferred to them. Those trusts have in turn sold most of the shares they reported receiving, netting at least $1.2 billion in proceeds so far.
Seems like the CEO thinks that it's downhill from here; I'm not sure what other reason there would be to do this.
pc86 1 month ago
Estate planning is very likely code for tax avoidance. I know basically nothing about Kurtz, I would venture this is all going to family and structuring this staggering generational wealth so they don't overpay taxes.
lotsofpulp 1 month ago
plorkyeran 1 month ago
pc86 1 month ago
toast0 1 month ago
OTOH, California recently added a transfer on death deed that may provide a simpler way to avoid probate on homes, which may reduce the number of trusts formed just for that.
A lot of people leave California and still think they need a trust in other states, so trusts in other states are growing in numbers as well.
psunavy03 1 month ago
SoftTalker 1 month ago
lotsofpulp 1 month ago
>It’s why you see even average personal homes placed in trusts.
This statement meant to convey that people with average levels of wealth, such that tax liability is low enough such that tax avoidance is not necessary, can also benefit from spending a couple thousand dollars with an estate lawyer.
Technically, their heirs benefit because they don’t need to deal with probate court.
psunavy03 1 month ago
"I have not seen this before" != "this is not common," as much as people on the internet tend to confuse the two.
delfinom 1 month ago
kube-system 1 month ago
chrisjj 1 month ago
> 1 or 2 large customers taking a massive stake avoid the business getting sued into the ground
?
tills13 1 month ago
duxup 1 month ago
cj 1 month ago
Almost certainly not classified as a charitable donation.
yojo 1 month ago
In this case, he obviously blows past that limit quickly.
crftr 1 month ago
A plausible explanation.
malfist 1 month ago
mwkaufma 1 month ago
jbs789 1 month ago
Surprised the stock is up.
wkat4242 1 month ago
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Calwestjobs 1 month ago
tananaev 1 month ago
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ta1243 1 month ago
America doesn't care about Russia. Russia is a threat to Europe, not to America, and America doesn't care about Europe either.
Likewise Europe doesn't care about China, and certainly countries like North Korea - China is a threat to America.
Europe has many problem, many of which were caused or fanned by Russia over the last couple of decades, from the refugee crisis to brexit to German gas reliance, all of which has increased European fragmentation (which was hardly a harmonious world in 2005) and weakened the continent. I'm not sure if Europe can work together enough to respond to the challenge -- it's failed to do so so far, and pro-russian elements are gaining popularity in recent elections in Europe, from the UK to Germany to Romania.
Interestingly outside of Russia's sphere of influence (Canada, Australia), elections have shown a different direction.
Calwestjobs 1 month ago
Brexit was successful because tools developed for USA was used / tested on UK. USA writes in English. UK writes in English. Facebook (US company) was fined for brexit. Cambridge analytica, is gone? Lessons learned, Facebooks price up.
Also US individuals and US companies paying to distort results of sociological surveys done / published in European countries is well known at this point.
Germany reliance on russian gas was measure for transition towards renewable sources, it was cheapest energy after renewables, even then, so why pay for other fossils? Directive 2010/31/EU, Green deal, and many other were part of post 2008 US financial crisis efforts to make Europe sustainable (not eco nonsense, but economically, these efforts were accelerated after 2019/2020. Where US scientists working in Wuhan.. just joking, or am i ?
USA for example California got inspired all the time be example of Germany in all sorts of regulation. emissions on vehicles even before 2000s... Texas is second biggest deployment of PV and batteries in west. florida (red, trump state) is state with highest ratio of fully electric homes....
Soft power is very strong with this one. (US) Darth Vader: [1:55:54] The Force is strong with this one. ( "Lucas HATES europe with all his might". Which you can google and see for yourself, how strong force is with this one. )