Hacker Remix

TV Garden

761 points by vkdelta 5 days ago | 124 comments

thundergolfer 1 day ago

One of those projects that has me wondering what I was doing instead of building this. The end result is great, and the technical details seem like they'd be interesting. TIL about Internet Protocol TV: https://github.com/iptv-org/iptv

phantomathkg 1 day ago

What you see in that repo is not truly true IPTV[0].

What you see in the repo is a lot of different HLS manifest[1], which in turn pointed to different questionable sources of all the OTT streams around the world.

[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_IPTV_Forum [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_Live_Streaming

anjel 23 hours ago

So the cable pirated TV to IPTV reflector streams are being re-pirated or maybe just Liberated?

esskay 19 hours ago

I've not looked at it in a few months but fairly sure its not pirated, its just online streams of FTA channels. All the UK ones for example are are just the UK's free to air broadcasters and someones figured out the urls to the feeds they use on their websites and apps.

Lots of the US and CA ones look to be the same sort of situation. You'll find most wont work without a VPN as they are geo blocked.

phantomathkg 3 hours ago

Free to air in UK does not mean free to the whole world. For example BBC/Channel 4/Channel 5 are geofenced to UK only.

pests 1 day ago

I have a friend who purchased some sketchy IPTV service for $100/year. Basically all the cable and premium channels from around the world. Navigating the channels are difficult as there are many duplicates or all the local channels around the country. Interesting to watch the news in different areas and sometimes a little unreliable and probably illegal but it was a TIL for me too.

esskay 19 hours ago

I had something similar a few years ago. I ended up having to write a little script to pull out just the channels I wanted as nothing could handle the 18 thousand stream options it provided (total insanity that its bundled up into 1 file like that in the first place but seems to be the norm for dodgy IPTV providers).

Nowadays theres better tools for the job. StreamMaster* for example can handle thousands of IPTV sources and let you organise them nicely into something that can be read by Plex, Jellyfin, etc.

*Sadly recently abandoned but still available on github.

yard2010 19 hours ago

Thanks for the rabbit hole, and making me realize I need one.

NKosmatos 1 day ago

There’s also Radio Garden https://radio.garden/

steelegbr 20 hours ago

It's worth remembering that Radio Garden is now gubbed for transatlantic listening from the UK due to music licencing issues. The same problem also impacts TuneIn.

jjbinx007 19 hours ago

"Station Unavailable

Users in the United Kingdom are restricted from tuning in to stations outside of the UK for an indefinite period due to copyright and neighboring rights related matters that require clarification.

Stations situated in the UK continue to be available.

For more information please read the statement in the 'Settings' section."

indoor47 19 hours ago

tv.garden might witness similar issues :/

gosub100 1 day ago

HN brought me there over 5 years ago and I've been using it regularly ever since.

vivzkestrel 1 day ago

maybe we need a podcast.garden now

dkh 22 hours ago

Most [public] podcasts are registered in Apple's podcast registry, which is what most podcast apps with a global search/discovery feature queries, and why these apps can all turn up the same podcasts. There are also things like https://podbay.fm that put give it a more general web frontend.

I suppose that the not public podcasts could be aggregated somewhere, but I'm less of a fan of that, and there's also some technical reasons why this would be more difficult than it was to aggregate these IPTV HLS streams.

Being able to view them by country or whatever is interesting, though I think perhaps less so for podcasts than something like live news, but not a bad idea

rom16384 19 hours ago

You may find the Podcast Index [1] project interesting, it tries to create an open index of all podcasts, and currently has 4.5M podcasts. It has a downloadable sqlite database and an API.

[1] https://podcastindex.org/

dkh 18 hours ago

Haha, the most recently uploaded/indexed "episodes" of a "podcast" on this site are individual songs from what looks like a podcast feed of a radio show. Just kind of funny

Very cool project

dkh 18 hours ago

They seem to use this monetization "system"/philosophy: https://value4value.info

..which is yet again something I find both interesting and kind of funny (that they have "standardized" the philosophy of "pay what you want")

LightBug1 16 hours ago

That was literally in my top 10 favourite websites until the UK f'd it up ... actually, I haven't tried using it with a VPN

londons_explore 18 hours ago

Really notable that all the youtube feeds work and load fast, whereas all the other feeds are 50/50 if they work or not, and if they do load they're slow, laggy and bad quality.

Props to the youtube engineering team I guess!

mcflubbins 1 day ago

Checks out.

Clicked on a channel in the Philippines and immediately had to sit through 5 soap related commercials, precisely what I recall from my time there.

ThatMedicIsASpy 1 day ago

I have a hard time recalling the last time I watched ads outside of Cyberpunk 2077 where I watched, listened and actively search for them in my first hours.

But now I want to actively want to know how ads look all around the world.

mcflubbins 15 hours ago

I made some mix tapes a couple years ago for my wife (Filipino) with some of her favorite Filipino artists. I searched for radio bumpers and commercials from the stations we used to hear on the radio and in taxis to put in-between every couple songs as if it were a radio station it was so much fun and made her feel like home, reminded me of my years spent there too!

DaiPlusPlus 1 day ago

> had to sit through 5 soap related commercials

Not the skin-lightening kind, I hope? Those ads were... odd.

I spent the late-1990s in Manila, for me it was Jollibee ads, and an oddly recurrent anti-corruption PSA which, I think, made corruption look quite appealing, actually.

mcflubbins 15 hours ago

Nope, a couple of Pride Bar commercials one for Safe Guard and a couple of laundry detergent ones.

I agree the skin lightening soap was weird for me too. Its kind of interesting how people yearn for what they don't have (pale light skin women in the west tanning, tan darker skinned women in the east lightening...)

lawgimenez 1 day ago

Skin lightening products are famous here for social status. It’s so fake.

airstrike 1 day ago

Same here. Clicked Brazil, SBT and they're showing Chaves (El Chavo del Ocho) reruns, just like they were 30 years ago...