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Project Mini Rack – compact and portable homelabs

99 points by ferriswil 22 hours ago | 41 comments

toprerules 19 hours ago

The one thing I don't understand about these Pi based mini-racks is why you would build a home lab that's less powerful than your client devices. My 24 U rack exists precisely because I want on demand, large amounts of compute/GPU for compiling, transcoding, encrypting, etc. and the cloud is too expensive. If you're going to make the investment into any type of home labbing, why gimp yourself with devices that can only run small services you could run on a single old desktop using containers?

lotharcable2 17 hours ago

> The one thing I don't understand about these Pi based mini-racks is why you would build a home lab that's less powerful than your client devices.

It makes sense because you are unlikely to run production workloads at home.

So you don't really need a half a terabyte of RAM and a 220v power supply for the world's most expensive electric space heater.

Instead people are most often interested in developing infrastructure-as-code or testing deployment strategies or doing tests to see what happens when outages happen. Logging, metrics collecting, simulating network failure, simulating software attacks. etc.

In most of those cases having a number of smaller machines makes more sense then trying to emulate a small datacenter on a one or two big ones.

In practice I think most people end up with 2 or 3 'big machines' for times when they do need the Umph or want to have a big storage array for their "linux ISO collections". Then having a number of Pis or HP mini desktops in arrays is just for good fun.

If I want to simulate full blown workloads and benchmarking then I can just use AWS or Azure for that. A lot cheaper to lease verts for a evening or two, then buy big machines and leaving them idle 99.8% of the time.

monkmartinez 19 hours ago

I generally agree with this sentiment and have struggled to put it into words. I have a beefy Dell Precision that I bought used for $200. This is where I simulate all the things; networking, container orchestration, services and more. I have upgraded to 128GB of ECC RAM, PCIe NVMe drives, and a 24GB quadro card. All in, I have about $800 invested. It's brittle as it is also my desktop so I delay updates and what not because I don't want to break anything. Not ideal.

So, now I am left with building another system and I need to decide form factor. Is this going to be headless or run a GUI of some kind with a monitor attached? Should I buy a big ole tower case or move to a 6u or 12u rack system. I want more VRAM and I need as much PCIe as possible. One thing for sure is that I don't want it to be Raspberry Pi based. I have two Pi4 collecting dust that were fun and impressive for what they are.

I saw these mini racks and wondered how they would work with an extended ATX board. Could these be useful as some kind of "open air" or mining type case where you simply bolt stuff on. Definitely going to investigate, so while the exact application of mini-racking pi's is not my jam, I am thankful that it was brought up.

j45 18 hours ago

This is a great deal, if those kinds of parts could be moved into a rack pc type case, your computer could just go sideways.

Or you could just put the dell sideways on a rack shelf and be ok with it for now... while you decide what will go there.

opan 19 hours ago

Low power device to leave on all the time, particularly for people who don't leave their clients on all the time. Like a router, but more versatile (although with a better OS on it, an actual router may do the same job).

toprerules 19 hours ago

You can buy a Synology NAS for less than the cost of this rack and it will do everything this rack can do including running containers. You can build your own NAS and run Unraid or FreeNAS or what have you for even less.

Arrowmaster 13 hours ago

As an owner of a Synology NAS, it's woefully behind on updates. The kernel is 4.4 and the docker version is probably two years old. Yes it works good for a beginner one system does all solution but you quickly out grow it.

numpad0 18 hours ago

Or you can have that in a "rack" aesthetics and pretend you run a datacenter. The end result is negligibly different.

nordsieck 19 hours ago

I feel like an m-series mac mini would be a really good fit for that - plenty of juice for when you need it, but very low idle power draw. The small size (especially for the m4 version) is an added benefit.

walterbell 18 hours ago

M4 Mac Mini will be a good low-power LLM (e.g. photo semantic search) NAS once Asahi Linux supports USB/Thunderbolt storage.

irskep 18 hours ago

In my case, it's because all my client devices are laptops, or locked down like Apple TV. It's nice to have a low-stakes experimentation box that can also be a Jellyfin server.

On the other hand, I don't go to the trouble this guy goes to. I just have a cheap mini PC plugged into Ethernet sitting on top of my router.

dchuk 18 hours ago

I have zero need for a portable raspberry pi cluster but damn is this cool anyway.

Also, I learned about this device from this post and immediately bought one for my existing home server remote access: https://jetkvm.com/

walterbell 18 hours ago

geerlingguy 18 hours ago

The code is on their GitHub: https://github.com/jetkvm/kvm (almost everything up, not sure about the base image yet, but they said it's coming).

I'll mention the broken link on their Discord.

BeefWellington 16 hours ago

This is less about the Pi and more about the form factor.

JKCalhoun 17 hours ago

Yeah, I have zero need too ... until there is no power where I live. Thinking the prepper-minded might like the idea of an off-grid network.

rcarmo 3 hours ago

This is cute, but there should be some kind of affordances for wall mounting or hanging it inside a closet. The emphasis on portability is… OK, I guess, but unlikely to ever be relevant for most people doing homelabs.

rahimnathwani 5 hours ago

It's interesting that he linked an inexpensive "260W GaN USB-C Charging Station".

It's less than $30 with a coupon, which seems to good to be true.

A look at the Amazon 2-star reviews suggests it has good build quality but can only output 75W to 100W total, not 260W as advertised.