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Map of California roads for cyclers (1895)

117 points by grajaganDev 1 week ago | 68 comments

supernova87a 1 week ago

If there's one thing to admire/observe about old advertisements or documents like this (aside from the cycling-specific content), it's how much in a previous age, people publicly put their names behind the content and claims. Company names, schedules, assertions of opinion/fact, signed with someone's actual name.

Not like some website where you hardly know what the name is supposed to mean, or who in virtual land you're submitting information and payment to.

lostlogin 1 week ago

> Not like some website where you hardly know what the name is supposed to mean, or who in virtual land you're submitting information and payment to.

The last 100 years are known by the state of California to cause cancer and you will be sued.

Limiting liability is surely behind the change you describes

jeffbee 1 week ago

I always like old maps for reminding us of the places that they thought were important, or would be important, back then, but are minor or forgotten today. For example note the prominent lettering of the town of Colusa and compare with the tiny lettering for Chico, now 20x larger than Colusa. Bodie is noted, but today it's completely abandoned.

Also I want to point out that the notion of riding from Coalinga (then: Alcalde) to Panoche (then: San Benito) via New Idria, on a bicycle, is lunacy. It's a major workout on a modern dirtbike with modern roads. I can't imagine that was a reasonable bicycle ride in 1895, or that anyone had a reason to undertake it from and to these unimportant sites. Must have been different back then.

resoluteteeth 1 week ago

The bikes and roads would have been worse than now (e.g. the bikes would have been single speed) but on the other hand in 1895 it seems like the first car hadn't been sold commercially in the US so I feel like the lack of car traffic might have somewhat offset that in the overall experience, and since people do all sorts of crazy rides now I don't think it's that surprising that they were doing it then too.

I bet a fair amount of modern cyclists would be willing to ride an 1895 bike on 1895 roads if it meant zero cars.

somat 1 week ago

The bicycle was an amazing revolution in travel that we(or at least I) don't really acknowledge. A relatively affordable machine(both in initial and maintenance costs) compared to a horse. but it makes you 10 times more efficient when you need to go somewhere. The bicycle was amazingly popular for good reason in the late 1800's. Sort of eclipsed by personal motor vehicles just a few years later however.

kjkjadksj 6 days ago

And probably for the same reasons people don’t like bike commuting today when they have a car. The engine obviates topology for you. That is the big difference maker. Throw all the bike lanes on the road you want and if you have some ugly elevation on your a-b, its going to be basically unbikeable unless you give up and walk the bike or are in amazing cycling shape. A hill need not be too big for this either, a false flat can be brutal enough especially coupled with a headwind rolling down that flat.

jeffbee 6 days ago

This is why the electric bicycle is so popular.

kjkjadksj 6 days ago

Not without its tradeoffs either. Cost. Lack of good manufacturers and oems or really very many ebike stores. Lack of serviceability of the ebike specific components. The bike specific components generally crap. 2-3x the weight of a human powered bike. Heavier tires that are more annoying to deal with in every metric. Nonzero risk of batteries exploding. Uncertain water resistance ratings. Arguably higher risk of theft.

Plenty of people do tool around on ebikes in socal. But it is a lot fewer people than I might have guessed would be doing it today if you asked me 5 years ago. Not even all that many people rent the scooters anymore.

jeffbee 6 days ago

Careful there. I think some of your axes are down to the nub. Maybe all those drawbacks exist to an extent but the market is speaking and ebikes are very popular.

lelandfe 1 week ago

Bodie mentioned! It's an inhospitable ghost town that will make you appreciate modern conveniences. Hot summer days plunge into freezing cold at night. The sheer danger the stamp mill held for residents is wild to read about. Definitely worth checking out for those heading to Mammoth outside winter (I think the dirt roads close for the snow).

jeffbee 1 week ago

Bodie is an amazing place. I don't think it ever closes, it just becomes unreachable by car. You can ski or snowshoe in, and the park is even staffed in the winter by people who live there and have snowmobiles.

Panzer04 1 week ago

It was a different world. You had to walk, ride a horse, take a carriage or take a train. If the train wasn't available, all of the alternatives were probably just slower than riding a bike.

brudgers 1 week ago

somat 1 week ago

Point of interest: the infamous tulare lake.

A massive[note 1] lake that does not exist any more.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulare_Lake

And not on this map(for two reasons), the salton sea, a massive lake that did not exist yet. the other reason it is not on this map, besides not existing yet, is the map does not cover that corner of the state.

1. in surface area, not volume, my understanding is it was really a sort of deep swamp.

yuppiepuppie 1 week ago

According to Wikipedia, it still exists with wetlands and marshes, but the majority of the time it’s dry.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulare_Lake

Loughla 1 week ago

If you're in for a weird documentary, watch Plagues and Pleasure On the Salton Sea.

It's amazing.

trillic 6 days ago

The lake existed as recently as 2023…