361 points by deadprogram 1 week ago | 113 comments
a12k 1 week ago
Hope in the future either Apple supports this more officially, or there is a way to use it with no direct link to my Apple ID or account. Until then, I am a spectator in these things.
malmeloo 1 week ago
ustad 1 week ago
“You will be asked for your Apple-ID, password and your 2FA”
You mean get another apple device and setup another account?
malmeloo 1 week ago
tossit444 1 week ago
ValentineC 1 week ago
DanAtC 1 week ago
malmeloo 1 week ago
mmooss 1 week ago
dwaite 1 week ago
My understanding of how it is all supposed to work:
You get a key-generating-key at provisioning time. The tag itself has three modes depending on whether it is in contact with one of your devices, and further whether it has been out of contact more than a certain period of time.
When not in contact, it will advertise itself with a rotating public key based partially on a rotating Mac address. An Apple device which sees it will encrypt location data based on that key and send it to apple to store under that public key as a mailbox. A device which continues to see it while moving will start to alert the person holding that device that there may be an AirTag tracking them.
The tag itself has NFC functionality which provides information for helping find the owner, and on Apple's side this is meant to be tied to a real identity to aid LE if there's an abuse scenario.
After a certain amount of time not seeing another device, an AirTag will start to make sounds to alert people where it is when an Apple device comes into range.
When you want to find your item, you anonymously query it under its rotating key information, and use your knowledge of the private key generation to get location information. Since there's nothing Apple uses to correlate these entries, there may be multiple records over time although Apple's UI only shows the newest entry found.
So yes, there's anonymity in being near devices but limited so that someone can know they are being tracked. There's anonymity in querying location. However, there's not meant to be anonymity with physical access.
jki275 1 week ago
menzoic 1 week ago
That’s kind of how the whole system works.
mmooss 1 week ago
malmeloo 1 week ago
hattmall 1 week ago
malmeloo 1 week ago
yardstick 1 week ago
malmeloo 1 week ago
jcutrell 1 week ago
Eventually they will capitalize more on the mesh density, rather than crushing the adoption now.
malmeloo 1 week ago
koolba 1 week ago
Trying to understand why apple doesn’t (or can’t?) already reject broadcast data from keys that are not apple products.
malmeloo 1 week ago
prepend 1 week ago
Until then, more devices are probably positive for reducing potential pitchforking.
_-_-__-_-_- 1 week ago
averageRoyalty 1 week ago
I've since added them into all my cars, bags and a few honeypots embedded into high value items that might be stolen.
marci 1 week ago
CPLX 1 week ago
deadprogram 1 week ago
https://github.com/hybridgroup/go-haystack?tab=readme-ov-fil...
iJohnDoe 1 week ago
1vuio0pswjnm7 1 week ago