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SpinLaunch: Giant catapult launching satellites

31 points by DocFeind 9 hours ago | 50 comments

zamadatix 8 hours ago

The article is a bit fluffy and the headline completely misleading. It's proposed to get things to orbit by launching them up decently high and fast where the device then uses fuel to actually reach orbit.

Articles around SpinLaunch seem to be popping up lately which is a bit odd considering it's been ~2 years since they've done any testing and I've haven't seen any actual new announcements in these new articles yet.

bunderbunder 8 hours ago

Though, for what it's worth, replacing the first stage of a traditional rocket would still represent a dramatic reduction in fuel weight and perhaps also total launch costs.

You're kindasorta doing the equivalent of replacing an entire Falcon 9 with a relatively lightweight sabot. Either way the initial boost puts the orbital vehicle on a suborbital trajectory, so it needs to carry its own engine for the orbital insertion burn.

zamadatix 6 hours ago

Agreed, with one nit: Initially you say first stage and later you say entire Falcon 9. Both approaches retain the 2nd stage rocket for orbital burn (separate from whatever propulsion the payload may have) so it's more equivalent to proposing replacement of just the first stage of the Falcon 9.

horsawlarway 8 hours ago

I don't really agree that the title is misleading. I would fully expect the launched satellite to need its own engine and fuel (if nothing else, you'll need orbital corrections).

This seems to replace the booster stage, which is still a pretty huge deal, and is also the largest expenditure of fuel.

> Articles around SpinLaunch seem to be popping up lately which is a bit odd considering it's been ~2 years since they've done any testing and I've haven't seen any actual new announcements in these new articles yet.

No argument here. Their website also seems to be about a year out of date (their "in the news" stops in late 2023).

zamadatix 7 hours ago

It does replace the booster stage but it the 2nd stage isn't the satellite with its orbital corrections boosters to fine tune things, it's a rocket which provides 75% of the delta-v. The booster stage replacement doesn't even (propose to) get the 2nd stage to the Karman line without fuel, much less something to orbit without fuel like the title reads.

Replacing the booster stage is an interesting proposal, it's just not what the title conveys.

rdtsc 8 hours ago

The could be looking to be bought out by someone like Boeing or such so starting making more press releases?

sbuttgereit 8 hours ago

Yep. Maybe they're having a, "we're not dead yet!" PR push.

rdtsc 5 hours ago

That's what I was thinking, "we're not dead yet, and please someone buy us".

perihelions 7 hours ago

https://youtu.be/TGO4LtCctTk?t=22

Looks like a liquid-fuel rocket engine? Wow. That's got to be one heck of a hydraulic hammer when it hits 10,000g.

What kind of rocket engine have they designed that could survive this? Obviously it's not going to be a conventional turbopump; those things have micron tolerances, no way those could withstand 10,000g and still work. Probably they're doing some kind of pressure-fed engine (the fuel tanks held at high pressure, probably by compressed helium). They don't seem to publicly answer these questions, anywhere on their website? That's credibility-hurting.

There've been rocket engines built in the past that can survive low 100's of g's, at least. Those were exotic solid-fuel designs, intended as air-defense missiles.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sprint_(missile)

shmeeed 4 hours ago

Are they really actually claiming to have designed such a rocket engine?

Thanks for the Sprint info BTW, I had never heard of that.

dylan604 8 hours ago

I didn't see mentioned the size of payload compatible with this type of launch. I also didn't see anything about how loud it is, but I'd imagine it is quiet compared to a rocket launch. Would the payload be large enough to create a sonic boom on launch?

It's also just so much less dramatic visually compared to a rocket launch. It just feels anticlimactic. Still cool and interesting none-the-less.

rbanffy 8 hours ago

It's more artillery than rocketry.

bunderbunder 8 hours ago

I'm not sure if this is reporting anything new?

I the 2022 test flights that the article mentions would have been from their smaller, vertical-throwing suborbital prototype. Last I saw they had kind of gone silent since 2023. The news page on their website [https://www.spinlaunch.com/in-the-news] hasn't posted any updates in almost a year.

I assume means they haven't successfully scaled up to the orbital launcher yet. Perhaps they're having trouble securing funding. Perhaps they're having trouble working out some engineering problems or securing a site for the facility. Or maybe things are just taking time. I'm guessing, though, that this is a situation where no news is definitely not good news.

karmakaze 8 hours ago

Yeah wondering the same. I figure if they had anything new to show it would show up in their YouTube channel[0]. I can't even tell the difference between the Apr 2022 and Nov 2021 test launches as there isn't much detail provided.

[0] https://www.youtube.com/@spinlaunch6288/videos