114 points by hasheddan 2 days ago | 112 comments
ebiester 2 days ago
If failure means homelessness, avoid failure.
If failure means you lose your one chance in your life of completing a marathon, be conservative.
If the difference between failing and succeeding is minimal in your life, burn the bridges! This was not his first marathon, and even if he bonked, he'd likely still be able to finish it, albeit slowly.
wing-_-nuts 2 days ago
That's when I realized it was much easier to take those risks when you knew you had a safety net to fall back on and you didn't have to worry about winding up homeless sleeping under an overpass.
rqtwteye 2 days ago
jbs789 2 days ago
If someone bets a million bucks on stock A, but is worth a billion bucks, then that’s not $1m conviction, it’s <1% conviction. And that information is then factored into the size of my bet.
Unfortunately I also learned this the hard way.
rqtwteye 2 days ago
compsciphd 23 hours ago
HeyLaughingBoy 6 hours ago
creole_wither 15 hours ago
wadadadad 2 days ago
tracerbulletx 1 day ago
43 Calling his disciples to him, Jesus said, “Truly I tell you, this poor widow has put more into the treasury than all the others. 44 They all gave out of their wealth; but she, out of her poverty, put in everything—all she had to live on.”
jbs789 1 day ago
bhattid 1 day ago
deepnet 1 day ago
Mostly Folk match expectations, I.e. upsides
Downside fear is a very great motivator
A lack of consequential downsides can make folk sensibly choose to cut their losses and move on.
Sometimes this is invisible as parents bailing you out is not known before and may be a private discussion.
All or nothing downsides can mean folk will work themselves close to death to win ( or just not lose )
It also effects how much someone will gamble to get a unicorn rather than settle for a comfy income
Have the downside discussion early on
packetlost 2 days ago
ilrwbwrkhv 2 days ago
sombrero_john 2 days ago
That said I agree that people give in to fear too much, which prevents them from taking risks.
ilrwbwrkhv 2 days ago
ebiester 2 days ago
All it takes is a downturn at the wrong time and a low capacity for risk.
ipaddr 2 days ago
If you risk homelessness on a lottery ticket you are making a bad choice.
Cheer2171 2 days ago
tetha 2 days ago
- What impact does the change have?
- How do you get out of that change, and how long does that take?
- And what is your confidence into the change, and the bail-out plan?
And honestly, if you have a high-confidence, fast bailout plan, you can be downright brazen/#yolo about changes. We've recently had to update a central and critical IDP, but we eventually realized: We have the old docker images, and it has a 200MB sized DB. We can dump + restore that in 2 minutes. So if the upgrade goes wrong, we have high confidence to rollback in like 5 minutes. At such a point.. why not just go with it?
Similar things are developing with Postgres upgrades. Setup 1 leader + 3 replicas, upgrade 2 replicas, failover, see how much explodes and at worst, fall back. If we can test beforehand, alright.
Other teams plan complicated upgrades requiring coordinated actions of 6 other teams. And like 3 know how to possibly take back that change? And like 4 know what to actually do? Ugh, this ended up in a fun weekend.
Aurornis 2 days ago
The author’s analogy was about burning ships, not bridges, but your quote about burning bridges reminds me of related scenario I’m seeing more frequently among young people I’ve mentored: The idea that burning bridges is not a big deal because there are always more opportunities.
I’m in a big Slack where people come to ask for advice on tech careers. An alarming number of questions in recent years are from people who want to leave their jobs with a bang: Quitting without notice, intentionally making things difficult for their successor, unloading their grievances with specific people as they leave, posting big angry messages on the company Slack on their last day, and other ill-advised ideas.
They’re always disappointed when the Slack unanimously tells them it’s a bad idea to intentionally burn bridges like that. I guess it’s not until later in your career that you realize the value of being able to call on old managers and coworkers for referrals or job opportunities. They see leaving a job as the last time they’ll ever see any of those people. We have to remind them every time that networking is important and therefore they don’t want to leave a lasting negative impression on a place where they spent years building a reputation. Just do your two weeks notice and quietly exit.
Tangential, but it comes up enough in these scenarios about taking on new risks that I thought I’d mention it.
ebiester 2 days ago
I have found that a bad network is often worse than no network in that the type of people that work in a way you hate will lead you to jobs that are not right for you. Going back to the point above, this all depends on your risk capacity. I speak that as someone with a high risk capacity. For someone who has not built up reserves, that is terrible advice.
JumpCrisscross 13 hours ago
Strongly disagree here. There are many marathons. Push yourself as hard as you can. Worst case, you miss and can’t attempt again. But you had fun and have plenty of other things you can do with your time and physique.
rqtwteye 2 days ago
eddd-ddde 2 days ago
It can literally mean my cake burned in the oven or my company loses millions of dollars.
Consequences are irrelevant.
margalabargala 2 days ago
The author had options to either 1) try for right at 3 hours, and either succeed or fail, or 2) push harder, get a much better time, and perhaps succeed but risk putting himself in a state where he did not finish at all. The failure to finish at all due to the extra reach is the spectacular fail referred to.
imetatroll 18 hours ago
TacticalCoder 2 days ago
The issue is when it's combined with "spectacularly".
As in: "I spectacularly failed at boiling my eggs. I let them boil for 7 minutes instead of 6 minutes 30. What a spectacular fail".
But nobody gives a flying f--k about my failed eggs.
Xymist 2 days ago
pazimzadeh 2 days ago
But maybe eating just carbs led to low minerals, hence the cramping? You could try to bank by eating oysters and a potassium supplement two days before?
hasheddan 2 days ago
wsintra2022 2 days ago
gcanyon 2 days ago
“So you're in charge of the rejects.”
“They don't like being called that.”
“What do you call them?”
“The rejects.” -- Jackson Lamb