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108 points by adamaskun 5 days ago | 87 comments

I'm still working on it, curious but what feature may be most valuable for you? What do you think about personalised care instructions, and an interactive chat feature for each plant.

mikeocool 4 days ago

This looks cool! I would be a causal user of this, but $7 puts it out of my price range, even with a free trial.

Though I think there is something interesting you are exploring here —- I imagine this is backed by an LLM API? If that’s the case, I would naively assume that I can get similar information using my chat gpt subscription directly — personally that’s where I find myself going for many of the random questions that come up in my life these days.

That brings up a couple of interesting questions that I would be curious to hear the results over time on (not that you have any obligation to share) 1) is there a wide audience that finds a value in this that don’t otherwise have access to ChatGPT/claude/whatever llm — and value this enough to pay just for this sort of ‘niche’ AI product? Or 2) alternatively — is the prompting/fine tuning/curation of the ai content you are providing better than what a naive LLM user could do on their own in a casual chat, that paying for this directly in addition to an LLM service would be worth it?

joshvm 4 days ago

The de facto for Western plant species ID is Pl@ntNet/iNaturalist (free and citizen scientists will ID if there is uncertainty). Then you just look up care instructions? I would absolutely not trust ChatGPT.

I say Western as the training data is skewed by common species and usually they’re a bit geographically limited (for example BirdNET works best if you use a localised model).

Also if you use these free services, you can contribute natural training data which is valuable - even for well represented species.

esperent 4 days ago

I really wish per use pricing was normalized. I would gladly pay a few cents per use, and I'd use it a few times a month.

But a $7 subscription is far more than the utility I'd get from it.

hotgeart 4 days ago

The problem with this is also in the case of fraud refunds. I have a site where the subscription was only 2€/m but I had to increase it because when customers asked for a refund via their bank I had to pay 16€ in fees.

reducesuffering 4 days ago

At what price would you pay for it? I'm trying to identify a price for an early consumer product in a different market

mikeocool 4 days ago

I probably wouldn’t pay a monthly subscription (which may very well just mean I’m simply not part of your target audience, and that’s fine) — though if I could use something super simple like Apple Pay to buy a few scans for $1, I would probably do that.

reducesuffering 4 days ago

Interesting thank you. It looks like an additional resource-usage model could work in OP's case. Though with financial transaction fees starting at $0.33 of that $1, starting higher at 3-5 might be more appropriate.

voidee 4 days ago

A different product would be evaluated differently based on its usefulness and quality compared to free options.

As many others here stated, there are free trustworthy alternatives like PlantNet and iNaturalist. For now, even Google Lens is more reliable… until Google gets flooded with bad data and AI generated images of plants.

$3 seems like a better entry point for a product to test the market. Equivalent to a cup of coffee in most cities.

arecsu 4 days ago

I think this idea is beautiful! I definitively would use it for some plants at home. But I'm not buying new plants each month, and even if I do, I don't know if I would use this for all of those. I have only 8 plants I would like to scan and forget, and the idea of subscribing throws me off, even if I can unsubscribe.

A better pricing schema for this, that also combat today's subscription fatigue, would be to sell X amount of plant scans. Like you can sell 10, 30 or 60 in different pricing scales. Pay once, the already scanned plants stay there in the users library. At least, I would find that pricing to be much more realistic and fair, and I suspect plenty of potential users are in the same boat as me. I will be able to personally scan the aforementioned 8 plants today, and 2 new plants in the long run, and it will feel great and fair.

Loughla 4 days ago

Not to poopoo this, but there are multiple apps for this, some with master Gardeners behind them. Some that are straight up suggested by states for use, based on the input from their master Gardeners.

What makes yours different?

esperent 4 days ago

I have no idea what a master gardener is (a US thing I guess?) or why I would care if they endorse an app. But I have tried a couple of the top rated apps for this on Android and found them utterly terrible. I remember one result, I took a very clear photo of a bunch of bananas growing on a tree and got some kind of ferns as the answer. If this app can do better I expect there's a place in the world for it.

zirkuswurstikus 4 days ago

Try Flora Incognita.

https://floraincognita.de/

oneeyedpigeon 4 days ago

I assume they mean "a famous gardener". Here in the UK, there are at least two household names that present gardening shows, whose endorsement on such a product would be a huge pull.

mplewis 4 days ago

oneeyedpigeon 4 days ago

Ok, so it is a US (well, North American) thing? I stand corrected.

adamaskun 4 days ago

Thanks for your input! Yes, there are many apps out there. Originally, I made it for a friend who was paying $20/month for GPT. I really appreciate you taking the time to share your thoughts!

Loughla 3 days ago

You might check out Picture This for what the master gardeners recommend. It's the one I see most people use and happily pay for.

kayson 4 days ago

Such as?

dyauspitr 4 days ago

PictureThis is the standard and it’s pretty damn good.

Loughla 3 days ago

Picture this. It was recommended by my state university extension. It's fantastic.

bertylicious 4 days ago

I wanted to see how it looks and what exactly it does without reading too much. Since you're offering a free trial I went for that. It was annoying that I had to create an account first, but I can see how that might be necessary. But now the page is asking me to pay even though I just want the trial you advertised? That's just sketchy. Other obstacles: no PayPal. Maybe this app really is just a wrapper around an LLM chat and that's why you're not showing it?

Edit: I can't even delete my account? This app seems just super sketchy now. My impression is that it's either a scam or build by someone lacking the necessary experience and skills.

adamaskun 4 days ago

Thank you for your feedback. I’ve deleted your account, so there’s no need to worry about that. This is the first launch of the app, and I’m working on resolving all the issues quickly. I appreciate your patience and understanding!

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I will set 7 days trial without payment, from what i got from feedback

chachacharge 4 days ago

File a GDPR complaint to test if that is working